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Awakening is a permanent state of witnessing the self, not a temporary experience or an ego-driven sense of superior spiritual status.
“When the ego awakens when the ego or that small self or the shadow within us has this high and feels okay I wouldn't quickly label it as awakening because awakening doesn't come and go.”
Next Level Soul Podcast · Jan 2026 · 1 episode · 96K views on this topicLoch Kelly argues that awakening is a development of a subtler dimension of consciousness that exists alongside the ego, rather than a total replacement or elimination of it.
“the ego can take over and use the spiritual knowledge as a commodity. Um, so they don't see their own, you know, humanity and humility. However, this is the history of many of the spiritual teachers who have acted out.”
Next Level Soul Podcast · Mar 2026 · 1 episode · 63K views on this topicPositions are extracted from transcripts by a model and may misattribute who said what. Every quote links to the episode it came from.