Alastair Campbell argues that the film 'Zone of Interest' effectively illustrates the normalization of evil.

“it's the kind of normality it's the normalization of utterly abnormal Human Experience that's what I found sort of you because you know what's happening”

Rory Stewart believes that the government must actively involve moderate conservatives in order to prevent the Conservative party from becoming an extremist organization.

“for people who are moderate conservatives you have to get involved in the fight to try to stop the party from becoming a party of extremists”