Ethan claims that the popular attention surrounding the pygmy hippo Moodang was an industry-manufactured plan.

“if you don't think that the entire mudang thing was astroturfed I I got a bridge I can sell you think mang's an IND of course it's a huge industry plan”

Charlamagne claims that the Trump organization attempted to orchestrate a fake grassroots movement to encourage reopening the economy.

“they're basically saying that Trump organization try to do an astroturf movement to get people to reopen America”

The movement is astroturfed because its logistical support, such as signs and media coordination, contradicts its claims of being an organic uprising.

“You know, when you come with signs that are printed by a labor union, uh pretty clear you're pretty clear. Uh the average person didn't do that. They're like, I need to get I need to get a labor union to make sure that these are labor union printed signs. It's not happening. So, this is astroturf.”