“The second you think you have it, uh you find that there is more left for you to learn. So there's something elusive about it in the sense that the horizon is elusive, right? Like you approach it and you feel like you're not making progress.”

“I just bump on one aspect of human nature which is that we many of us hate not knowing. We like certainty. It's a bull work against um a um a world that often seems out of control.”

“for me it's the power of four words, not three, being able to say I don't know yet. And so if you're engaged in blind spotting, you're aware and you're confident that you don't know everything, but you're also confident you're going to be able to find out.”