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Andrey Kurkovguest16

He considers the Ukrainian electricians and plumbers who have died while repairing infrastructure under Russian attack to be victims of the war.

“several plumbers died, electricians died. And you can consider them the victims of the war, the victims of Russian aggression because they were saving other people. They were saving civilians.”

Bloomberg Podcasts · Feb 2026 · 1 episode · 6K views on this topic

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