She believes that reframing one's perception of others from the role they play to the soul within them is a way to address societal divisions.

“It's about being able to look as you know here Raldos always put it as a as soul not role.”

He believes the current societal climate suffers from significant division and polarization.

“Well, of course, everybody everybody is concerned about what's happening in our world today, especially the division between people.”

He asserts that viewing all individuals as part of one collective entity is a more effective approach than engaging in us-versus-them scenarios.

“Now, if it's all us, it's quite a different trip than if it's them. It's them. You better lock your door. Get your 22. But if it's us, far out. Aren't we a complex exquisitely uh exquisitly intervol intervolved organisms interreacting evolved?”