Deliberation is superior to debate because it focuses on collective understanding and progress rather than merely winning an argument.

“debate is about owning someone else and it's about winning >> and deliberation is about getting somewhere >> and I think like I I very you know positive about the world. I think sort of 90% of people agree about 90% of things”

Humans possess innate interpretive frameworks, often expressed as stories or personalities, that mediate between individual perception and objective facts.

“you can't get directly from the fact to the value because there's an interpretive framework that mediates between you and the facts and so first of all I'd like to know if you accept that proposition”