Therapy is essential for identifying and uprooting deep-seated mental issues, while meditation and prayer serve as daily practices to maintain balance and health.

“I mean, so therapy to me was probably the most important initial uh part of it all because you can do a lot of meditation and prayer, but if you're um if you're a like like you like in Japan, you know how in Japan uh there's this tradition of there if a bowl breaks, they put it back together with go”