Reason alone is insufficient to build a society because it requires fundamental axioms and values, such as those found in the Judeo-Christian tradition, to function properly.

“The Enlightenment argument is that you can just reason your way to these things Well, you can reason your way to these things there Also a lot of other things you can reason your way to including communism and fascism The question is where what are your starting points?”

The founders integrated Enlightenment values by asserting that universal, discernible natural laws grant individuals unalienable rights.

“And so, they're saying, of course, they're they're pointing to the enlightenment values here that it is possible to discern laws of the universe. But they're also saying something really important both for the people at the time and for the rest of us. That this is not in their minds some philosophy”