“Counter intelligence exists in the gray. These are people who are trained to blend in, [music] who are trained to do things that look normal. So to find that piece of illegality is very, very difficult.”

“to potentially expose this intelligence officer whose job is to steal IP from American companies. That's just a beautiful operation.”

“Everyone does espionage, but not every country uses their intelligence apparatus to steal commercial trade secrets. That is beyond the norms.”