Pakman views ideological labels as terms that are often used as tools to stifle meaningful political conversation rather than to facilitate it.

“the problem with a lot of these terms and they're used very casually by people who call into my show is that unless we actually Define them each time they very often mean very different things to different people and often come with an agenda attached to them and so I find that they often stifle mea”

The speaker characterizes the current Republican Party as fascist and a threat to the country.

“But but tell me if I'm wrong, Hutch. The reason you would ever say yes to a pro-segregationist Democrat is because what's on the other side is now the right has moved so far even past segregation of Yeah, we're doing segregation and a lot more worse stuff.”