He supports NIL payments for college athletes because they have historically been exploited by universities.

“I want these kids to make as much money as they possibly can because for the longest time, colleges have used their name, image, and likeness.”

He believes NIL and the transfer portal have created a fairer, more competitive environment for college programs.

“Joe, has NIL and the transfer portal, has it leveled the playing field? Because before the NIL, Indiana had no chance of doing what they did in football, 16-0. So now it's made a lot of these programs”

He feels conflicted because he wants his team to succeed, but he dislikes the trend of players signing contracts and then easily walking away from them.

“I hope it works out for the Canes because it's the Canes and I I I want a good thing for the Canes to happen. But there is a part of me where it's like I I don't like the players signing contracts with team or schools and then just being able to say f it, I'm going somewhere else”

Lucy argues that Lane Kiffin would likely be more financially and competitively successful at Ole Miss than the Titans due to the university's NIL resources.

“With the amount of NIL money Texas has, I think he can probably spend more money with the Longhorns than he can with the Titans and be more successful.”