What do you get when a man hears a podcast, has an epiphany in his garage, and decides to educate millions of guys on TikTok about menopause? You get Jesse Robertson (the creator behind Husbands for Menopause) and one of our favorite conversations ever. This week on Laugh Lines, Penn and I sit down with Jesse to talk about how he started spiraling (in a good way!) into understanding menopause, better supporting his wife, and educating millions of men. Our conversation digs into why men absolutely need to be part of the menopause conversation, how to have more empathy for your spouse, and effective ways to communicate. We even brainstorm the very first Menopause Men’s Choir (which is exactly as chaotic and delightful as it sounds) and laugh our way through “banana wrapper” moments that happen when your perimenopause brain cannot find the words. Enjoy the conversation, share this episode to your husband! Jesse believes with better understanding men can be more supportive—and after this episode, you’ll believe it too. We love to hear from you, leave us a message at 323-364-3929 or write the show at podcast@theholdernessfamily.com. You can also listen to this show wherever you get podcasts. #podcast #menopause #marriage Follow Jesse on Instagram and TikTok: @husbands4menopause ___ Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/theholdernessfamily/ https://www.tiktok.com/@theholdernessfamily https://www.facebook.com/TheHoldernessfamily Shop our merch: https://shopholderness.com/ Laugh with us at https://www.youtube.com/@holdernessfamilylaughs?sub_confirmation=1 Sing along at https://www.youtube.com/@theholdernessfamily?sub_confirmation=1 We try our best to respond to comments. XO