This is part of Rebel Wisdom's new series 'The State of Sensemaking', the first film in the series is here: https://youtu.be/4YYrjHXJ0jI Chris Williamson is the host of the Modern Wisdom podcast, which has over 200,000 subscribers, and where he has hosted many of the same people as Rebel Wisdom. In this fascinating dialogue with Rebel Wisdom's David Fuller they discuss the challenges of Sensemaking outside the institutions, the pressures on creators and the ethical dilemmas involved in hosting guests from very different backgrounds. This film contains clips from Dave Rubin's Battle of Ideas III by Timbah on Toast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2LOvoDCPS8&t=1779s Rebel Wisdom is running a two day event 'The State of Sensemaking' at the end of September, to make sure you are informed about this, add your email address to our mailing list on our website: https://rebelwisdom.co.uk/