This is my discussion with James Poulos about technology and spirituality, how technology has reshaped our world and America, the hope of taking control over new technologies and putting them in the right hands, the role of global institutions, laws, and authority. James Poulos is the co-founder and executive editor of The American Mind at the Claremont Institute and the cofounder and publisher of Return at New Founding. He is the author of the books The Art of Being Free: How Alexis de Tocqueville Can Save Us from Ourselves, and Human Forever: The Digital Politics of Spiritual War: https://humanforever.us/ He holds a PhD in government from Georgetown University and a BA in political science from Duke University. A fellow at the Center for the Study of Digital Life, he was previously the communications director at the Heraion Foundation, a veterans-run rescue and recovery nonprofit operating in failed and fragile states. Follow James: Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/jamespoulos Substack, The Build: https://poulos.substack.com Timestamps: 0:00 - Coming up 1:17 - Intro music 1:41 - Start 2:18 - By what authority do you control technology? 6:22 - AI in the West 9:08 - The Revolutionary mode 17:02 - The role of global institutions 19:54 - French theorists on this topic 21:28 - Go live in the woods 24:05 - The law is not enough 30:11 - The big challenge 41:41 - Finding a spiritual authority 51:20 - Bitcoin monasteries 💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com 🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 🗣 Join The Symbolic World Community for discussions about symbolism: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 🔒 BECOME A PATRON: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 📱 SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.