Some of the biggest players in AI — in particular OpenAI, SpaceX, and Amazon — are heavily invested in creating a world after smartphones. They're also all rumored to be building devices that sound a lot like smartphones. Verge contributor David Imel helps us figure out what these companies might actually be building, what an AI smartphone looks like, and whether anyone can unseat Apple and Google. 0:00 AI Devices Not Phones 00:52 90 Seconds On The Verge 02:34 Meet David Imel 03:59 Intent Based Computing 06:46 Android Device Reality 07:59 AI On Top Of Apps 08:25 Siri Agent Demo 10:15 Trust And Control 16:58 Duopoly Problem 19:19 Voice Dictation Future 20:24 Amazon Fire Phone Redux 20:48 Amazon Phone Vision 21:29 Prime Video Shopping Ads 22:28 Compute Brick Theory 23:56 Accessories Over Devices 25:42 Escaping the Apple Tax 27:35 Ecosystem Roadblocks 28:54 Ranking AI Phone Winners 31:46 Branding and PR Reality 34:51 Interface Ideas Wanted 35:19 Show Wrap and Subscribe Subscribe: http://goo.gl/G5RXGs Like The Verge on Facebook: https://goo.gl/2P1aGc Follow on Twitter: https://goo.gl/XTWX61 Follow on Instagram: https://goo.gl/7ZeLv Watch The Vergecast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/40RFRkg The Vergecast Podcast: https://bit.ly/3WQDexZ Decoder with Nilay Patel: http://apple.co/3v29nDc More about our podcasts: https://www.theverge.com/podcasts Read More: http://www.theverge.com Community guidelines: http://bit.ly/2D0hlAv Wallpapers from The Verge: https://bit.ly/2xQXYJr Shop our Verge merch store here: https://bit.ly/4kPCmEc Subscribe to The Verge: https://bit.ly/3FT6n5S If you buy something from a Verge link, Vox Media may receive a commission without exerting any influence on editorial content. For more information about our ethics policy, visit: https://bit.ly/3ZWTlLs