It's public beta season, which means David and Nilay have been upgrading some devices this week. We talk through the good and bad of our early experiences with Siri AI, and what it'll take for next-gen Siri to be a hit. After that, we discuss the real reason Apple decided to sue OpenAI over trade secrets, OpenAI's forthcoming smart speaker, the new Pixel colors, our emoji strategies, Brendan Carr, and much more. 0:00 Welcome 00:58 Apple Betas Check-In 02:34 Siri AI Hits and Misses 06:30 Gemini Car Assistant Example 12:21 Developers and Siri Integrations 13:38 Apple Sues OpenAI 14:43 Trade Secret Law Explained 17:08 Apple IP Wars History 27:28 Will OpenAI Settle 31:10 Gadget Leaks Return 31:32 OpenAI Smart Speaker Rumor 32:52 Why Hardware Defaults Home 34:31 Smart Home Table Stakes 35:51 ChatGPT App Product Woes 38:22 LLMs Won’t Change Speakers 39:42 Old Platform Lessons Return 44:14 Delight vs Predictability 47:10 Pixel Colors and Naming 49:12 OnePlus Retreat Explained 51:59 Carriers and iPhone Lock In 59:06 The Lightning Round 01:00:41 Brendan Carr is a Dummy 01:02:00 Open Bribes Era 01:04:17 FCC Ownership Cap Fight 01:08:27 Call to Comment 01:09:30 Emoji Lightning Round 01:11:04 Cracked Face Emoji 01:13:46 X Algorithm Rediscovery 01:18:57 Foothills Singularity Talk 01:24:16 Paramount Merger Spin 01:29:01 Wrap and Plugs Subscribe: http://goo.gl/G5RXGs Like The Verge on Facebook: https://goo.gl/2P1aGc Follow on Twitter: https://goo.gl/XTWX61 Follow on Instagram: https://goo.gl/7ZeLv Watch The Vergecast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/40RFRkg The Vergecast Podcast: https://bit.ly/3WQDexZ Decoder with Nilay Patel: http://apple.co/3v29nDc More about our podcasts: https://www.theverge.com/podcasts Read More: http://www.theverge.com Community guidelines: http://bit.ly/2D0hlAv Wallpapers from The Verge: https://bit.ly/2xQXYJr Shop our Verge merch store here: https://bit.ly/4kPCmEc Subscribe to The Verge: https://bit.ly/3FT6n5S Subscribe to The Vergecast on YouTube, new episodes on Tuesday and Friday: https://bit.ly/3I6nJtz If you buy something from a Verge link, Vox Media may receive a commission without exerting any influence on editorial content. For more information about our ethics policy, visit: https://bit.ly/3ZWTlLs