Kelly Beaucar Vlahos returns to the show to discuss recent articles she’s written on the hawkish elements trying to take control of the America First movement. They start with a discussion about Peter Thiel, who Vlahos does not trust, and JD Vance, who she still has concerns about but thinks is a bit better. They then move onto Vlahos’ experience covering the National Conservative conference, where her hopes to see more voices of restraint and realism emerging on the right were dashed by another year of Bush-era anti-Muslim fearmongering. Check out the interview page here: https://scotthorton.org/interviews/7-25-24-kelley-vlahos-on-the-hawks-trying-to-co-opt-the-america-first-movement/ For more on Scott's work: Check out The Libertarian Institute: https://www.libertarianinstitute.org Read Scott's latest book, Enough Already: Time to End the War on Terrorism: https://amzn.to/3tgMCdw Read Scott's first book, Fool's Errand: Time to End the War in Afghanistan: https://foolserrand.us Follow Scott on Twitter using the handle @scotthortonshow: And check out Scott's full interview archives: https://scotthorton.org/all-interview... You can also support Scott's work by making a one-time or recurring donation at https://scotthorton.org/donate/