Bret Speaks with Dr. Jessica Rose on the subject of the rift within the COVID dissident community regarding the existence of a novel pathogen. Find Dr. Jessica Rose on X at https://x.com/JesslovesMJK and on her Substacks at https://jessicar.substack.com and https://jessica5b3.substack.com. ***** Sponsors: Fresh Pressed Olive Oil: Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club: Scrumptious & freshly harvested. Go to http://www.GetFreshDarkHorse.com to get a bottle of the best olive oil you’ve ever had for $1 shipping. ARMRA: Colostrum is our first food, and can help restore your health and resilience as an adult. Go to http://www.tryarmra.com/DARKHORSE to get 15% off your first order. Helix: Excellent, sleep-enhancing, American-made mattresses. Go to http://www.HelixSleep.com/DarkHorse to get up to 25% of all mattress orders AND 2 free pillows. ***** Join DarkHorse on Locals! Get access to our Discord server, exclusive live streams, live chats for all streams, and early access to many podcasts: https://darkhorse.locals.com Check out the DHP store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://www.darkhorsestore.org Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. ***** Mentioned in this Episode: - Denis Rancourt believes there was no novel pathogen https://x.com/denisrancourt/status/1820187161565474989 and https://jessicar.substack.com/p/on-the-there-was-no-pandemic-subject - Dr. Pierre Cory’s certification revoked in August 2024 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/13/doctors-accused-spreading-misinformation-lose-certifications - The diffuse proposal https://theintercept.com/2021/09/23/coronavirus-research-grant-darpa/ https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/06/03/opinion/covid-lab-leak.html - MSH3 Homology and Potential Recombination Link to SARS-CoV-2 Furin Cleavage Site https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/virology/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full