Donald Trump threatens witnesses and attacks Jack Smith while his lawyer tests out some novel defense arguments on all five Sunday shows. Mike Pence says he’s open to testifying against Trump. Ron DeSantis finally admits that Joe Biden won the election. Then, Desiree Tims from Innovation Ohio joins to talk about the crucial abortion rights vote happening on Tuesday. And later, Elijah is back from another round of Take Appreciators. CHAPTERS 00:00 - Intro 0:30 - Trump indictment 43:57 - Ad break 46:42 - Back to the news 58:58 - Ad break 1:00:05 - Desiree Tims Interview 1:11:26 - Take Appreciators CHECK OUT THESE DEALS FROM OUR SPONSORS: OUTERKNOWN: https://www.outerknown.com/psa25 ZBIOTICS: https://www.zbiotics.com/crooked use code CROOKED ARTICLE: https://www.article.com/crooked Want Pod Save America ad-free? Subscribe to Friends of the Pod: crooked.com/friends Subscribe to our channel! https://www.youtube.com/crookedmedia?sub_confirmation=1 Crooked believes that we need a better conversation about politics, culture, and the world around us—one that doesn’t just focus on what’s broken, but what we can do to fix it. At a time when it’s increasingly easy to feel cynical or hopeless, former Obama staffers Jon Favreau, Jon Lovett, and Tommy Vietor have created a place where people can have sane conversations that inform, entertain, and inspire action. In 2017 they started Crooked with Pod Save America—a no-bullshit conversation about politics. Since then, we continue to add shows, voices, and opportunities for activism, because it’s up to all of us to do our part to build a better world. That’s it. End of mission. Learn more about Crooked at http://www.crooked.com Follow the pod on Twitter https://twitter.com/podsaveamerica Follow Crooked on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/CrookedMedia/ Follow Crooked on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/crookedmedia/ #podsaveamerica #trump #mikepence PSA8823