Depending on which side of the political spectrum you align yourself, you probably have a certain kind of reaction when someone mentions the name “Charles Koch” or the Koch Industries over which he presides. In our divisive climate where shades of gray between black and white no longer seem to exist, you may admire Charles as a bootstrap-tugging entrepreneur who built an empire worth billions and paints a perfect picture of the American Dream in bold strokes of red, white, and blue, or you see him as a loophole-exploiting demagogue who uses his vast fortune as a weapon to annihilate legislative regulations on the free market that would hinder his company’s ability to profit at the expense of the country’s poorest. On this episode, we talk to Charles as well as Brian Hooks, CEO of philanthropic community Stand Together and co-author of their book Believe in People: Bottom-Up Solutions for a Top-Down World to see if maybe we can rediscover some of those shades of gray for a more accurate, less cartoonish idea of what really motivates the top-level decisions of Koch Industries. We’ll explore how Charles believes we can generate bottomless solutions through the empowerment of others, the place of money in politics, collaboration with people known for standing on the other side of the political spectrum (like George Soros) in order to solve the world’s biggest problems, good profit versus bad profit, why Charles doesn’t consider himself a Libertarian anymore (but another surprising “L” word, instead), finding new ways to address poverty, why a society that gives away its shiniest resources without requiring some kind of reciprocation is in need of serious reexamination, and much more. Listen, learn, and enjoy! ✍️ Full show notes and worksheets for this episode: https://jordanharbinger.com/437 What We Discuss with Charles Koch and Brian Hooks: 💰 In what ways is our world “top-down,” and what are “bottom-up” solutions? 💰 Should corporations with unfathomably deep coffers be allowed to contribute so much money to the political process and crafting of policies that affect us all? 💰 In recent years, what problems have warranted Charles’ collaboration with figures from the “other” side of the political spectrum (like George Soros — who is vilified by the right for contributing to Democratic initiatives just as Charles is vilified by the left for his contributions to Republican causes)? 💰 Good profit versus bad profit, and why making money should be a side-effect of creating mutual value, not the goal itself. 💰 How does Charles answer detractors who say Koch Industries is only in favor of government deregulation and pushing climate change denial so it can pollute with reckless abandon for maximum profits at the expense of the world’s poorest? 💰 And much more... 📖 Believe in People: Bottom-Up Solutions for a Top-Down World now available here: https://geni.us/a1ByriA Never miss a single incredible insight! Subscribe to The Jordan Harbinger Show here: http://www.youtube.com/THEJORDANHARBINGERSHOW?sub_confirmation=1 Want to watch more in-depth interviews with some of the world’s most amazing and successful people? Find full episodes here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNbAQB8BYtM&list=PLxuPu-uyanrrBgAl5-76enemxVsxFjnEQ&index=1 Welcome to The Jordan Harbinger Show, a video podcast where each week you get to join a conversation with some of the world’s highest performers and incredible personalities. I’ll ask them the tough questions to tease out their top tips so that you can reach levels of personal growth and mastery that you never imagined possible. Subscribe to the podcast: http://jordanharbinger.com/subscribe Learn more about Jordan: http://jordanharbinger.com/about