In this episode, we sit down with Nelson Rodriguez, host of Honor Among Thieves, a candid conversation about growing up around crime, getting pulled into a massive healthcare fraud scheme, losing everything, serving time in federal prison, and ultimately rebuilding his life through storytelling. Check Out Nelson: → https://Honoramongthievespodcast.com → https://www.instagram.com/montanatheprophet?stkn=YjFqMDBub3BvbzNt → https://www.instagram.com/honoramongthievespod?stkn=eHNydXQwMjZsN2Ri → https://youtube.com/@honoramongthievespodcast?si=d_kB9b64OBfx1qOZ Sponsored By: → HERS | Ready to reach your goals? Visit https://forhers.com/insane to access personalized, affordable care for weight loss, hair, menopause, and more. → ZocDoc | Taking care of your health just got easier – start here with Zocdoc: https://zocdoc.com/insane #sponsored On This Episode We Cover: → 00:00:00 - How did he become obsessed with crime stories? → 00:02:04 - How did his parents' stories shape his childhood? → 00:04:22 - Why did Scarface have such a big influence on him? → 00:05:32 - What made him believe the gangster lifestyle was worth chasing? → 00:14:11 - How did he go from being completely broke to making thousands a week? → 00:15:53 - When did he realize he was committing federal fraud? → 00:17:34 - How did the fraud actually work? → 00:22:04 - How did making easy money completely change his lifestyle? → 00:29:34 - What was he spending his fraud money on? → 00:31:12 - How long did he commit fraud? → 00:33:49 - Was he ever afraid of getting caught? → 00:35:41 - Why did he finally decide to walk away from the fraud? → 00:41:10 - How did the FBI eventually discover what he had been doing? → 00:45:10 - What was it like being arrested outside his home by the FBI? → 00:52:19 - Why did he lose his business? → 00:54:51 - What did he do while out on bond? → 00:57:33 - What happened while he was in federal prison? → 01:02:50 - How did prison change his perspective on life? → 01:05:42 - What did he learn from the people he met in prison? → 01:07:28 - What inspired Honor Among Thieves? → 01:11:17 - Why is rebuilding life after prison harder than prison? Further Listening → https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQRab4JgnZg More We Are All Insane: → OFFICIAL MERCH NOW AVAILABLE - code INSANE10 gets you 10% off for a limited time: https://shop.wereallinsane.com → Join We’re All Insane Mailing List for EXCLUSIVE Content + Discounts: https://mailchi.mp/6d0e5d7a3998/were-all-insane For early releases, uncensored videos and plenty of exclusive content please subscribe to the We Are All Insane subscription channel at https://wereallinsane.supportingcast.fm/. It's $5.99 a month and watchable on Apple and Android mobile apps, Roku TV, Apple TV and Amazon Fire.