UnHerd's Freddie Sayers and Flo Read sit down with founder of The Idler magazine, Tom Hodgkinson, to discuss the fraught history of the winter festival and the moral good in having a merry Christmas. Read the accompanying article: https://unherd.com/thepost/christmas-is-a-time-for-chaos/ Listen to the podcast: https://plnk.to/unherd?to=page Follow UnHerd on social media: Twitter: https://twitter.com/unherd Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unherd/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unherd/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@unherdtv // TIMECODES // #UnHerd #FreddieSayers #Christmas