This is a repost of my second conversation with Bernardo Kastrup on the More Christ channel and podcast. We discuss the question of different levels and kinds of consciousness, agency, meta-consciousness, spontaneous (“unconscious”) intelligence, intuition, the boundaries of identity, team dynamics and how all of this tie in with the Genesis narrative. Original video: Episode 88: Jonathan Pageau/Bernardo Kastrup 2: Consciousness, Meta-Consciousness, God, and Morality: https://youtu.be/_-aadYA6S6A My previous discussion with Bernardo Kastrup: Episode 75: Jonathan Pageau/Bernardo Kastrup: Orthodoxy, Resurrecting the Western Mind, Body & Soul: https://youtu.be/usFMBUTkaLk ============= Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Coming up next... 00:01:04 - Intro music 00:01:30 - Introducing the guests 00:02:05 - Reflecting on their last conversation 00:04:42 - The continuity of identity 00:07:30 - John Vervaeke: Agency VS Consciousness 00:09:38 - Attributing private inner consciousness 00:17:27 - Team dynamics 00:25:53 - Is top-down more fundamental than bottom-up? 00:30:24 - Illusions below 00:35:46 - The boundaries of identity 00:43:01 - The angels serve Man 00:47:00 - Where are angels and demons? 00:52:12 - Back to the problem of multiplicity 00:57:27 - True contradictions 01:03:22 - "Unconscious"/Spontaneous intelligence 01:13:01 - Drugs and trauma 01:18:53 - Are other beings also meta-conscious? 01:21:00 - The story of Genesis 01:24:22 - What is meta-consciousness? 01:30:47 - Meta-consciousness in the Genesis narrative 01:38:42 - Moral responsibility 01:46:51 - The Fall into meta-cognition ============= - The Symbolic World website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store - The Language of Creation (Matthieu Pageau): https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-ebook/dp/B07D738HD8 - Carving workshop: https://jonathanpageau.thinkific.com/courses/st-john-baptist The Symbolic World podcast: - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0gI8bUwPtT3gkduHqNh6M5 - Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-symbolic-world/id1386867488 More videos from The Symbolic World: - Odysee: https://odysee.com/@thesymbolicworld:2 - Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanPageauClips - French Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanPageaufrançais - Bitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/pageaujonathan/ - Dtube: https://steemit.com/@symbolism Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Support this channel: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Social media links: - Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson. My website designers, Anomalist Design: https://www.anomalistdesign.com/