Welcome to Part 23 of our Joseph Smith the Podcast series with Dr. John G. Turner. Today we are continuing our discussion of Chapter 19 of his new book “Joseph Smith: The Rise and Fall of an American Prophet” that covers the years 1838-1839 in Missouri. Today we will dive deeper into one of the most volatile and consequential moments in early Latter-day Saint history: the escalating conflict between the Mormon settlers and the Missourians in the late 1830s. In this episode, we examine how political tensions, misinformation, vigilante actions, and religious absolutism collided to create a crisis that would lead to the infamous extermination order and some of the darkest events of the Mormon-Missouri War. We explore the political landscape of Missouri, Joseph Smith’s rising militancy, the Danites, the allegations made by Thomas Marsh and Orson Hyde, the tragedy at Haun’s Mill, and the forces that brought both sides to the brink. From mob violence to theological justifications, from desperate settlers to governors refusing to intervene, this chapter shows how a religious movement and a frontier state found themselves locked in a spiral neither could escape. If you’ve been following the series, this episode continues directly from Part 22 and sets the stage for the next chapter: Liberty Jail. Please purchase the book here: https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300255164/joseph-smith/ To support this series please donate here: https://donorbox.org/josephsmith. One half of all donations will go to Dr. Turner for as long as he is participating in the series. Show notes can be found on the Mormon Stories blog here: https://www.mormonstories.org/extermination-orders-in-missouri/ Timecodes: 00:00:00 Introduction to part 23 of the series 00:08:02 What were the two political parties during this time in Missouri? 00:28:34 The Saints are facing extermination from Missouri 00:36:13 Joseph Smith preaches a war sermon, he wants his people to get ready to defend their remaining settlements 00:41:58 Wouldn’t this have been a great time for the Saints to just leave Missouri? 00:57:45 What should a Christian leader have done in this circumstance? 00:58:54 Thomas Marsh and the milk stripping story 01:05:46 Affidavit that says the Danites are creating a destruction company and are going to raze towns 01:11:43 Church leaders send sixty men led by David Patten to set the Mormon captives free 01:13:38 David Patten meeting the BIblical Cain (the Mormon Bigfoot) 01:18:18 The story of the Haun’s Mill massacre 01;36:19 Why was there no national outcry at the governor literally issuing an extermination order on a religious order? 01:40:11 Problems with the claim that the church is led by a prophet 01:45:03 Joseph sends a delegation to meet with militia leaders to ask for peace 01:51:44 Are there defections that come out of this? 01:56:57 Final remarks - Liberty jail is the next chapter ___________________ At Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology 2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis 3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions 🤝Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?default_interval=m Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/mormonstories Paypal: https://paypal.me/mormonstories Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx6OgmoqJbOVRq-Lv1P7SzA/join Our Platforms: 🌐Mormon Stories Blog: https://www.mormonstories.org/episodes 🎙️Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories ✳️Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sDzk7dRjODTSEqzZKZJzk?si=148b0efc1ccc4404&nd=1 🍎Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormon-stories-lds/id312094772 🖼️Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mormstories 📱TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormonstoriespodcast 🎮Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF Contact us: 📧 MormonStories@gmail.com 📬PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117