Why does the former Secretary of State think the US is going too soft on Russia and China? What was it like working closely with President Trump? Why did Putin invade Europe under Obama and Biden, but not Trump? Alastair and Rory are joined by Mike Pompeo, former US Secretary of State and CIA-Director, to discuss all this and more. Visit https://www.HP.com/politics to find out more. "To save your company time and money, open a Revolut Business account today via https://www.revolut.com/rb/leading, and add money to your account by 31st of December 2025 to get a £200 welcome bonus or equivalent in your local currency. Feature availability varies by plan. This offer’s available for New Business customers in the UK, US, Australia and Ireland. Fees and Terms & Conditions apply. For US customers, Revolut is not a bank. Banking services and card issuance are provided by Lead Bank, Member FDIC. Visa® and Mastercard® cards issued under license. Funds are FDIC insured up to $250,000 through Lead Bank, in the event Lead Bank fails. Fees may apply. See full terms in description. For Irish customers, Revolut Bank UAB is authorised and regulated by the Bank of Lithuania in the Republic of Lithuania and by the European Central Bank and is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland for conduct of business rules. For AU customers, consider PDS & TMD at revolut.com/en-AU. Revolut Payments Australia Pty Ltd (AFSL 517589)." Find out more about how Google’s AI is helping fuel the UK’s growth and transformation and read the report at https://www.goo.gle/aiworks. 00:00 Coming up 00:40 HP 02:03 Europe vs US views on Trump 06:20 Does Europe take the US for granted? 13:36 Putin & Ukraine 18:05 Middle East: Gaza war & “two-state solution is gone” 28:26 Revolut 29:36 Google AI 30:56 China as the strategic threat 35:50 Debrief Social Producer: Celine Charles + Harry Balden Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell Producer: Nicole Maslen Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport