Watch the FULL EPISODE here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9eVhNsPg6Y Subscribe Here: @JulianDoreyDaily Julian Dorey sits down with a comedian friend for the most entertaining and most genuinely alarming conversation about documented CIA programs that this podcast has produced. The subject is sheep dipping — the CIA program that strips active-duty military personnel of their military identity and inserts them into fake civilian lives as cover for covert intelligence operations — along with the documented connections between the CIA Scientology and Hollywood and the specific rumors circulating in those overlapping worlds that Julian Dorey finds impossible to dismiss. Sheep dipping refers to the process of temporarily separating active-duty military personnel from their military status — officially or unofficially — to assign them to intelligence operations. These individuals are often given false identities cover stories or employment with civilian government agencies private contractors or non-governmental organizations. The best known example is Air America — the CIA's proprietary airline that operated throughout Southeast Asia during the Vietnam War — but the practice extends across decades of American covert operations and into contexts that most Americans have never been told about. Julian Dorey examines what sheep dipping actually involves what the documented historical record shows about how extensively it has been used and why the practice raises specific and alarming questions about accountability oversight and the specific categories of people who can be turned into intelligence assets without the public ever knowing. The Scientology thread is the episode's most institutionally alarming and most consistently underreported contribution. The documented connections between the Church of Scientology and American intelligence agencies — particularly during the Cold War era and in the specific contexts of Hollywood and entertainment industry access — are a matter of historical record that most mainstream coverage has treated as too sensitive or too strange to examine seriously. Julian Dorey and his comedian guest examine what those connections actually show what the documented record establishes and why the specific combination of Scientology's intelligence-gathering apparatus and the CIA's interest in Hollywood makes the overlap between the two institutions one of the most significant and most consistently avoided stories in American intelligence history. The Hollywood rumors thread is the episode's most personally engaging and most immediately entertaining dimension — but it is also the thread that connects most directly to the broader question of how intelligence agencies use entertainment industry access and entertainment industry figures to serve specific operational objectives. The specific rumors Julian Dorey and his guest discuss are examined with the same documentary discipline he brings to every subject — separating what is documented from what is rumor and explaining why the distinction between those categories is sometimes less clear than the mainstream press has acknowledged. **Inside This Clip:** - What CIA sheep dipping actually is — the program that strips soldiers of their military identity - How sheep dipping works in practice — false identities cover stories and fake civilian employment - The historical record — from Air America in Vietnam to modern applications - Why sheep dipping raises specific and alarming questions about oversight and accountability - The CIA Scientology connection — what the documented record actually shows - Why the combination of Scientology's intelligence apparatus and CIA Hollywood access is significant - The Hollywood rumors — what is documented what is rumor and why the distinction matters - Why Julian Dorey and a comedian make the most engaging and most informative CIA explainer available - The specific entertainment industry figures and institutions that appear in the documented record - What the full picture of CIA programs examined in this conversation reveals about American intelligence This is the CIA programs conversation that is simultaneously the most entertaining and the most genuinely alarming episode in the series — because nothing makes documented institutional horror more accessible than a comedian who has also read all the same files. --- ***TIMESTAMPS*** 00:00 - Rob Reiner & Carl Reiner Tony Robbins Erika Kirk MK Monarch & Andrew Tate 08:59 - Fuentes Strange Phenomenon Israel Joe Rogan MrBeast & Kash Patel 19:24 - Sheep Dipping CIA & Scientology Sociopaths & Unhinged Rant 29:54 - The View Hollywood Tom Cruise & Fish 42:50 - Timecop Mark Twain Sunny Hostin Apology Erika Kirk & Gaydars 47:54 - Israeli Outposts Israel US Relations Charlie Kirk Druski's Erika Kirk Skit & Kash Patel @JulianDoreyDaily