Steve Magness, renowned performance expert and author of “Win the Inside Game,” examines why achievement culture undermines authentic growth. We explore the power of curiosity, moving beyond survival mode, and bust popular fitness myths. READ MORE👉🏾 https://bit.ly/richroll887 ✌🏼🌱 - Rich This Episode Is Brought To You By… Pique Get up to 20% OFF plus a FREE rechargeable frother and glass beaker with your first purchase 👉🏾 https://bit.ly/piquerrp Rocket Money Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster 👉🏾RocketMoney.com/RICHROLL Squarespace Use code RichRoll to save 10% off 👉🏾https://bit.ly/squarespace2025 AG1 Get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3K2 AND 5 free travel packs 👉🏾 https://bit.ly/ag12025 Check out all of the amazing discounts from our Sponsors 👉🏾 https://bit.ly/rrpsponsors LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/rrpitunes Spotify: http://bit.ly/rrpspotify Google: http://bit.ly/rrpgooglepods Meal Planner: http://meals.richroll.com Voicing Change Book: http://richroll.com/vc Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/RichRollPodcastClips Newsletter: http://bit.ly/rollcallemail CHAPTERS 00:00:00 Intro 00:02:23 Steve's Writing Career and Evolution 00:03:03 The Art and Science of Running 00:08:19 The Trap of Comfort Zones 00:09:20 The Predictive Nature of Our Brain 00:13:01 The Role of Security in Exploration 00:17:40 The Impact of Media Consumption on Stress Levels 00:20:29 The Role of Social Media in Discourse and Expertise 00:26:43 The Importance of Holding Attachments Loosely 00:29:09 The Interplay of Intrinsic and Extrinsic Motivations 00:33:15 Sponsor Break 00:36:11 The Alignment Problem and Individual Responsibility 00:39:56 The Solution to the Problem of Identity and Exploration 00:48:50 The Power of Progression Towards Mastery 00:50:04 The Journey of Caleb Dressel: A Case Study 00:52:53 The Role of Identity in Performance and Achievement 00:56:54 The Importance of Role Models and Future Paths 00:59:33 The Transition from Known to Anonymous Societies 01:01:13 The Power of Curiosity and the Threat of Security 01:03:46 The Role of Boredom in Propelling Curiosity 01:04:57 The Role of Curiosity and Play in Creativity 01:05:17 The Importance of Unplugging and Exploring 01:07:38 Sponsor Break 01:09:42 The Science Behind Exercise and Creativity 01:11:32 The Challenge of Remembering Ideas During Exercise 01:13:04 The Role of Curiosity in the Workplace 01:14:06 The Impact of Fear of Failure on Creativity 01:16:25 The Influence of Public Failure on Performance 01:17:20 The Teachability of Adaptability and Creativity 01:18:21 The Trainability of Brain Pathways 01:21:31 Busting Fitness Myths and the Science of Speed and Endurance 01:22:54 The Role of VO2 Max in Longevity and Performance 01:26:48 The Importance of Holistic Endurance Performance 01:27:18 The Misconceptions Around Training for VO2 Max 01:29:31 The Importance of Aerobic Foundation in Training 01:31:32 The Risk of Overtraining Without an Aerobic Foundation 01:33:13 The Timeless Training Approach of Frank Shorter 01:34:15 The Psychological Barrier in Training 01:34:52 Practical Indicators of Aerobic Fitness 01:35:32 The Importance of Aerobic Fitness Foundation 01:36:46 Balancing Endurance and Speed in Training 01:39:51 The Misunderstanding of Training Volume 01:44:30 The Gap Between Speed and Endurance 01:45:41 The Importance of Consistent Endurance Work 01:46:23 The Benefit of Zone Two Runs 01:51:21 The Impact of Age on Performance 01:56:23 The Misconception of VO2 Max Training 02:03:23 The Role of Coaching Artistry in Interval Training 02:05:54 Intense Training and Understanding the History of Training 02:09:07 The Impact of Failure and the Path to Exploration 02:12:52 The Power of Service to Others and Final Thoughts CONNECT WITH RICH ✩ Website - http://richroll.com​ ✩ Rich Roll Podcast - https://richroll.com/all-episodes/ ✩ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/richroll/ ✩ Twitter - https://twitter.com/richroll ✩ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/richrollfans ✩ Strava - https://www.strava.com/athletes/14443?oq=rich ✩ Memoir: Finding Ultra - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/finding-ultra/ ✩ Meals - http://meals.richroll.com​ ✩ Cook - The Plantpower Way - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-signed/ ✩ Italian! - The Plantpower Way: Italia - https://www.richroll.com/shop/books/the-plantpower-way-italia-signed/ ✩ Support - https://www.patreon.com/richroll FILMED AND EDITED BY DAN DRAKE https://www.dandrake333.com/ * * * * * NEW TO RICH? Hi I'm Rich Roll. I'm a vegan ultra-endurance athlete, author, podcaster, public speaker & wellness evangelist. But mainly I'm a dad of four. If you want to know more, visit my website or check out these two the NY Times articles: http://bit.ly/otillonyt http://bit.ly/vegansglam I LOVE MAIL! SEND IT HERE: 2630 Conejo Spectrum St. Thousand Oaks, CA 91320 #richroll #richrollpodcast