Are you getting ripped off on your cell phone bill? On this episode of Earn Your Leisure, we sit down with TextNow founder Derek Ting to break down how he built a free mobile phone service that has generated $1 billion in lifetime revenue. From a backdoor hack to its first million users through word of mouth, Derek shares the story behind TextNow and what it takes to serve 10 million active users while challenging the telecom industry. We explore his entrepreneurial journey, from building a BitTorrent tracker at 15 to turning $8,000 into $80,000 through stock investing. Derek explains why building products matters more than chasing investors—and the mindset behind driving a $350,000 car while refusing to pay for parking. We also dive into how AI is changing the way people learn programming and build businesses. Derek shares his perspective on vibe coding, why AI creates a competitive advantage for tech companies, and whether it represents a bigger threat or opportunity. Plus, we discuss what the next 10 years could look like as AI reshapes how we work and live. #EarnYourLeisure #TextNow #DerekTing #Entrepreneurship #Business #ArtificialIntelligence #AI #Tech #Investing #VibeCoding #Telecom Chapters: ## Chapters Subscribe to EYL - https://bit.ly/4jnU7Mr Subscribe to EYLClips - https://bit.ly/4yqBw6r Watch more from the EYL Network: Earn Your Leisure - https://bit.ly/4e6VJ9S Market Mondays - https://bit.ly/4zzN7kt Black Out - https://bit.ly/3VPSai2 EYL Highlights - https://bit.ly/4yqCvn9 EYL Clips - https://bit.ly/3Wqpz32 Market Monday Clips - https://bit.ly/4zBtFnx Black Out Clips - https://bit.ly/4zxnr7Z Join the EYL community for deeper training and a more detailed approach: https://www.eyluniversity.com Join the number one stock club in the world: https://www.ianinvest.com This episode is a paid partnership with Apple Card. Apply for Apple Card in the Wallet app on your iPhone today. #earnyourleisure