In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with author Rod Dreher for a conversation on UFOs, demons, exorcism, the occult, and the growing spiritual crisis in the modern West. We discuss why figures like JD Vance believe the UFO phenomenon may be demonic, the rise of the occult, Gen Z's search for meaning, Christianity, and why Dreher believes the West has lost its sense of the supernatural. WATCH THE EXTENDED CONVERSATION HERE: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/ LIVE EVENT: Is Islam compatible with the West? Get your discounted first release tickets now before they sell out: https://winstonmarshall.eventbrite.co.uk I can’t wait for you to join us in London for one of the most important debates of our time