In this episode, we explore why scholars overwhelmingly view isaiah as a multi-author work, how the Great Isaiah Scroll challenges the Book of Mormon’s use of Isaiah, and why the text consistently aligns with the King James Version rather than ancient sources. We walk through the history of the brass plates, the transition from scroll to codex technology, and the anachronisms the Church now quietly acknowledges. We compare the Great Isaiah Scroll, the Masoretic Text, the Original Manuscript of the Book of Mormon, and the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible, revealing where Joseph Smith appears to be pulling from later biblical scholarship –including Adam Clarke’s commentary –and where verses in the Book of Mormon simply did not exist in ancient manuscripts. We ask the question: What does this mean for believers who want the text to be historical? Show notes can be found on the Mormon Stories blog here: https://www.mormonstories.org/the-other-isaiah-problem-in-the-book-of-mormon/ Timecodes: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:04:59 overview of the topic for today 00:06:52 The problem with Deutero-Isaiah 00:09:41 Timeline for the BoM and the Great Isaiah Scroll 00:12:15 A brief explanation about the Book of Mormon 00:12:50 What are the brass plates and why are they problematic? 00:20:20 The LDS Bible Dictionary: Codex 00:25:57 Clip with David Bokovoy 00:29:36 Nephi wrote the literal words of Isaiah into the Book of Mormon 00:32:04 The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Great Isaiah Scroll 00:33:59 Looking at the timeline again 00:40:36 Methodology in comparing the three texts 00:45:45 This is not actually what Joseph Smith is doing, Why is God punking Joseph Smith? 00:48:30 Comparing Isaiah 2 with 2 Nephi 12, Joseph Smith got it right! 00:50:05 Verse ten does not exist in the Great Isaiah Scroll 00:52:40 Why Did Joseph Smith Produce a New Translation of the Bible? 00:59:28 The church pays scholars to explain these all away 01:06:43 Comparing Isaiah Chapter 54 to 3 Nephi 22 01:12:37 Comparing Isaiah 7 to 2 Nephi 17 (young woman changed to virgin) 01:16:29 How Joseph Smith dealt with the italics in the Book of Mormon, prove he was using the KJV 01:17:04 Comparing Isaiah 14 to 2 Nephi 24 (the name Lucifer) 01:20:38 Another example where the word hedgehog was changed to bittern 01:25:12 John wants viewers to created Isaiah wearing a French beret eating a croissant and playing Sonic the Hedgehog 01:26:29 Comparison Isaiah 14 to 2 Nephi 24 (sexism) 01:27:53 Comparing Isaiah 49 to 1 Nephi 21 where Joseph Smith adds blocks of texts that didn’t exist in either text 01:30:25 Comparing Isaiah 48 to 1 Nephi 20 (the waters of Judah) 01:36:14 Comparing Isaiah 53 to Mosiah 14 (he will see light) 01:38:19 Is there a way to frame this for a person who wants to believe in the historicity in the Book of Mormon? 01:41:51 The examples from apologists that vindicate Joseph Smith 01:45:20 Five “hits” from the apologist, versus what he got wrong 01:46:29 The abstract of this study and what they leave out 01:50:58 The note from the editor on the study 01:53:01 Summary of this argument 02:00:39 Why didn’t Joseph just make up that he had a paper scroll instead of Brass Plats? 02:04:43 Problems for the conceptual translation 02:06:31 Imagine what it would be like if the Book of Mormon reflected what was written on the Great Isaiah Scroll 02:12:04 Final thoughts ___________________ At Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology 2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis 3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions 🤝Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?default_interval=m Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/mormonstories Paypal: https://paypal.me/mormonstories Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx6OgmoqJbOVRq-Lv1P7SzA/join Our Platforms: 🌐Mormon Stories Blog: https://www.mormonstories.org/episodes 🎙️Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories ✳️Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sDzk7dRjODTSEqzZKZJzk?si=148b0efc1ccc4404&nd=1 🍎Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormon-stories-lds/id312094772 🖼️Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mormstories 📱TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormonstoriespodcast 🎮Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF Contact us: 📧 MormonStories@gmail.com 📬PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117