Professor Kenneth Stanley has just launched a brand new type of social network without any popularity contest of likes, which he calls a "Serendipity network". MLST public Discord: https://discord.gg/machine-learning-street-talk-mlst-937356144060530778 Please support our work on Patreon - get access to interviews months early, private Patreon, networking, exclusive content and regular calls with Tim and Keith. https://patreon.com/mlst Get Maven here: https://www.heymaven.com/ Kenneth: https://twitter.com/kenneth0stanley https://www.kenstanley.net/home Host - Tim Scarfe: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ecsquizor/ https://www.mlst.ai/ Original MLST show with Kenneth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhYGXYeMq_E TOC: 00:00 - Introduction 02:14 - Sam Altman Story 04:43 - What is Maven? 16:08 - Cofounders 16:59 - WGCNBP 23:00 - Link to RL 27:45 - Natural Plausibility / How Far Can We Go? 33:59 - Jim Fan 36:47 - Picbreeder 43:54 - Language Game 49:40 - Creativity 58:15 - Why did Kenneth do Maven? 1:10:15 - Agency + Politics Lens 1:12:06 - Agency Deprivation on Left and Right 1:17:47 - The Ultimate Divergent System Is the World 1:22:04 - Why is high agency social good? 1:25:27 - Agency or Deceptive Objective (FB) 1:31:20 - YouTube Debasement 1:38:21 - The Space of Creativity, Measuring It 1:40:32 - Market System / Profit 1:43:14 - Agency to Power Seeking 1:48:01 - Is Serendipity == Power Seeking? 1:55:19 - Morality 1:59:24 - Accounting for Our Intrinsic Drive to Explore (+Friston) 2:05:27 - Pure Exploration? Any Planning? 2:07:55 - Most Social Media Users Consumer 2:11:24 - Echo Chambers 2:13:47 - Is Social Media Broken? Maybe Edit, A Bit Like WHY Question 2:18:02 - AI X-risk 2:25:03 - Agency Interpretation of Kenneth's work 2:35:23 - Status Game 2:47:16 - Facebook 2:54:26 - Cold Start Problem 3:03:44 - Convergence from Other Platforms (Maven) 3:06:29 - Objectives Creeping in Later 3:08:15 - Will Zuck Copy? 3:09:51 - Panopticon / Social Identity