Today on the flagship podcast of forced app divestiture: The Verge’s David Pierce and Lauren Fiener discuss the latest tech policy bills floating through Congress, including a privacy bill, a generative AI bill, and the TikTok divest-or-ban bill. David talks with Nikola Todorovic and Tye Sheridan about their company Wonder Dynamics, which is creating AI-powered production tools for filmmakers. David answers a question from the Vergecast Hotline about messaging apps. 00:00 - Intro 02​​:17 - Tech policy w/Lauren Feiner 03:41 - A TikTok ban is very close 15:51 - The American Privacy Rights Act 31:35 - AI at the movies w/Tye Sheridan and Nikola Todorovic 41:42 - Democratizing filmmaking with AI 58:07 - The business side of AI in filmmaking 01:00:47 - The Future of movie viewing experiences 01:02:01 - Global filmmaking with AI 1:05:29 - Bloated messaging apps (Vergecast Hotline) Further reading: TikTok ‘ban’ passes in the House again: https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/20/24135163/tiktok-ban-divest-bytedance-house-foreign-aid-package TikTok divest-or-ban legislation could suddenly be fast-tracked in the Senate: https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/18/24133975/tiktok-divest-ban-bill-foreign-aid-package-house-senate Lawmakers unveil new bipartisan digital privacy bill after years of impasse: https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/8/24124143/lawmakers-unveil-bipartisan-comprehensive-digital-american-privacy-rights-act-bill A real privacy law? House lawmakers are optimistic this time: https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/17/24133323/american-privacy-rights-act-house-lawmakers-legislative-hearing New bill would create public datasets to train AI and incentivize innovation.: https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/18/24134178/new-bill-would-create-public-datasets-to-train-ai-and-incentivize-innovation Subscribe: http://goo.gl/G5RXGs Like The Verge on Facebook: https://goo.gl/2P1aGc Follow on Twitter: https://goo.gl/XTWX61 Follow on Instagram: https://goo.gl/7ZeLvX Follow on TikTok: http://bit.ly/42VeCVU The Vergecast Podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/vergecast Decoder with Nilay Patel: https://link.chtbl.com/decoder More about our podcasts: https://www.theverge.com/podcasts Read More: http://www.theverge.com Community guidelines: http://bit.ly/2D0hlAv Wallpapers from The Verge: https://bit.ly/2xQXYJr If you buy something from a Verge link, Vox Media may receive a commission without exerting any influence on editorial content. For more information about our ethics policy, visit: https://bit.ly/3P4bJgz