Discover Rylee and JoCee Porter's challenges in a life intertwined with the LDS church, where their father worked as an Ensign Peak executive, part of the Mormon Church's controversial investment company. In this episode, Rylee and Jocee recall their experiences as cultural minorities while their father worked on Wall Street and the cultural disparities they encountered upon moving to Utah, where they struggled with bullying and the insidious nature of Utah Mormonism. Uncover the pivotal moments that led Rylee to question the validity of the church’s truth claims and moral credibility, and eventually make the courageous decision to break free from the church at the cost of her family relationships. Get ready for an eye-opening conversation that delves into the complexities of faith, personal integrity, and the power of one's own principles. Rylee's Insta: https://www.instagram.com/ryleecoyotee Rylee's Facebook: facebook.com/ryleeporter92 JoCee's Insta: https://www.instagram.com/jocee.holladay Too Pretty to Code Ugly: https://codepretty.tech/ https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast/daughters-of-ensign-peak-advisor-speak-out 00:00:00 Introductions & intentions 00:14:30 Porter family background 00:26:00 How a Mormon “hick” from Roy Utah makes it to Wall Street 00:34:00 Role of LDS church community in Rylee’s early life. 00:46:15 Rylee’s experience in Mormon culture 00:55:45 Rylee’s Girl’s Camp experience 00:59:00 JoCee’s reflections as a Mormon in New Jersey 01:18:00 Jeff Porter sued by Koch brothers, moves to Utah 01:38:45 Educational and cultural differences between Utah and “back east” 01:54:00 Feeling “bored” and bullied in Utah Mormonism 01:59:00 Jeff Porter working for Ensign Peak 02:06:15 Jeff encouraging the questioning of authority in family 02:08:00 Utah Mormon release time seminary 02:13:00 Feeling like Utah Mormon culture was systemically insidious 02:27:00 Going to Utah State in Logan 02:29:00 On being a “Black Sheep” in a devout Utah Mormon family 02:33:00 When your Mormon bishop is your primary care physician 02:34:30 Starts studying Mormon church history, “Everything has been a lie.” 02:43:00 Wondering if parents were complicit in a corrupt system 02:48:00 Watching the Mormon temple ceremony on YouTube, realizing it’s a cult 02:50:00 Bishop tells her father of her resignation before she is ready to tell him herself. 02:55:00 Having the integrity to live by her principles 02:58:00 Being in both a toxic church and family system 03:02:00 What kept her family from being able to have constructive conversations? 03:04:00 Trying to talk to her father about Mormon history and truth claims, RSR, Fawn Brodie, and how cults trump personal health and family relationships 03:09:40 Why a Mormon apostate is the most dangerous thing you can be ___________________ At Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology 2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis 3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions 🤝Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?default_interval=m Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Our Platforms: 🌐Mormon Stories Blog: https://www.mormonstories.org/episodes 🎙️Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories ✳️Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sDzk7dRjODTSEqzZKZJzk?si=148b0efc1ccc4404&nd=1 🍎Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormon-stories-lds/id312094772 🖼️Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mormstories 📱TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormonstoriespodcast 🎮Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF Contact us: 📧 MormonStories@gmail.com 📬PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 #MormonStories #Mormon #lds