Steven Rinella talks with author Jamie Holmes, Randall Williams, Brody Henderson, Phil Taylor, and Corinne Schneider.  Topics discussed: Jamie's new book, The Free and the Dead: The Untold Story of the Black Seminole Chief, the Indigenous Rebel, and America's Forgotten War is out; deep archival research; the evidence base and when the notes section of the book is almost as long as the book itself; the complexity of stories about the Seminole Wars; turning what you know on its head; the environment of interior Florida; what enslavement meant to the tribes; who were the black Seminole people?; the relationship between Osceola and Abraham; and more.   Get Jamie's book here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Free-and-the-Dead/Jamie-Holmes/9781668050613 Connect with Steve and The MeatEater Podcast Network Steve on Instagram and Twitter MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube Connect with Steve and The MeatEater Podcast Network Steve on Instagram and Twitter MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube Connect with Steve and The MeatEater Podcast Network Steve on Instagram and Twitter MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube Connect with Steve and The MeatEater Podcast Network: https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterPodcastNetwork Steve on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stevenrinella/?hl=en Check out the gear the MeatEater Crew uses in the field here: https://store.themeateater.com Follow us: Web: https://www.themeateater.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/meateater Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StevenRinellaMeatEater Chapters: