Google Zero continues to affect website after website, and publisher after publisher. David and Nilay discuss Google's increased focus on AI, the web companies finally starting to fight back, and whether there's a way forward for Google's pact with the open web. After that, they talk about a big week in AI detection software, which sometimes works and frequently doesn't. Then it's time for the Hype Desk, Brendan Carr is a dummy, the Light Flip, and more. 0:00 Welcome and Banter 00:19 Solar Meter AI Fix 03:01 Google Zero Begins 03:36 Reddit Google Deal 06:02 Publishers Traffic Collapse 10:23 YouTube as Hedge 13:42 Search Earnings Pressure 16:33 AI Overviews Death Spiral 17:34 Paying for Information 23:46 OpenAI Hugging Face Hack 25:58 Why This Is Alarming 27:10 Guardrails and Sandbox 30:05 Substack AI Detector 30:42 AI Slop Moderation Trap 33:00 Substack Moderation Debate 34:34 Pangram Doubts 34:53 Substack Filters AI Not Hate 37:01 Bezos Pushes Prime AI 40:15 Humans Want Real Recs 41:59 Meta Content Seal Critique 45:47 Labeling Gets Messy Fast 49:58 Hype Desk Flavortown Bits 50:53 Infinity Vision And Doomsday 54:30 Marvel Nostalgia Versus Future 01:01:00 Brendan Carr Is A Dummy 01:03:42 FCC Threats to Broadcasters 01:05:57 Public Interest and Access 01:09:11 Ramageddon Hits Framework 01:13:15 AI Backlash and Gaming 01:14:30 Apple Leasing Lockdown 01:18:46 Light Flip Phone Trend 01:22:01 5G Reality Check 01:22:25 Joanna Stern on Ford Maps 01:25:16 CarPlay Ultra vs Android 01:32:07 Wrap Up and Subscriptions Subscribe: http://goo.gl/G5RXGs Like The Verge on Facebook: https://goo.gl/2P1aGc Follow on Twitter: https://goo.gl/XTWX61 Follow on Instagram: https://goo.gl/7ZeLv Watch The Vergecast on YouTube: https://bit.ly/40RFRkg The Vergecast Podcast: https://bit.ly/3WQDexZ Decoder with Nilay Patel: http://apple.co/3v29nDc More about our podcasts: https://www.theverge.com/podcasts Read More: http://www.theverge.com Community guidelines: http://bit.ly/2D0hlAv Wallpapers from The Verge: https://bit.ly/2xQXYJr Shop our Verge merch store here: https://bit.ly/4kPCmEc Subscribe to The Verge: https://bit.ly/3FT6n5S If you buy something from a Verge link, Vox Media may receive a commission without exerting any influence on editorial content. For more information about our ethics policy, visit: https://bit.ly/3ZWTlLs