Guillaume de Saint-Marc is Vice President of Engineering at Outshift by Cisco. He joins Big Technology to discuss how AI agents can coordinate in swarms and what it will take to make multi-agent systems truly useful in the enterprise. Tune in to hear how agent collaboration works, why guardrails and governance matter, and what these systems may be able to do that single agents cannot. We also cover Moltbook, OpenClaw, the Internet of Agents, the Internet of Cognition, open source strategy, and the future of self-forming agent systems. Hit play for a smart look at where AI agents are headed next. Chapters 00:00 The Rise of AI Agents 03:04 Understanding Agent Collaboration 06:12 The Internet of Agents 08:58 Self-Forming Agent Systems 12:02 Controlling Agent Behavior 15:04 Challenges in Multi-Agent Systems 17:50 The Future of Agent Swarms 20:49 Open Sourcing Agent Technology 23:57 The Role of Agents in IT Operations 26:57 Getting Involved in Agent Development