Jackson and Hayden Paul are two brothers who run the Stick of Joseph YouTube channel. The Stick of Joseph channel seeks to make the Book of Mormon accessible by making engaging, entertaining and informative content. Jackson and Hayden are what some would call apologists for the Mormon church. Join us as we meet with them to hear their Mormon stories, and to understand how they continue to believe in core Mormon truth claims in spite of modern scientific evidence. Click here to visit the Stick of Joseph YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJJ4TYPZCKbZonuWVpA5XLg 00:00:00 Introducing Hayden and Jackson 00:01:35 The main purpose of their channel 00:03:45 Intentions for being on Mormon Stories 00:07:45 The beginning of their Mormon Story 00:20:44 Lizard story 00:25:30 Attending/Not attending Seminary 00:29:35 Repentance moments with his bishop 00:33:20 Jackson’s spiritual development growing up 00:39:46 Hayden served his mission in Budapest 00:58:26 Life after Hayden’s mission 01:01:30 Hayden work with Operation Underground Railroad and was his personal assistant 01:06:15 When did he start hearing doubts about the church? 01:16:40 Jackson coming home from his mission 01:20:24 Being a temple worker 01:23:40 Hayden going to boot camp 01:26:00 Synthesizing beliefs in Jesus with his thoughts on war 01:38:20 Going into the marines as a Returned Missionary 01:54:50 Questions on politics 02:01:26 How do Mormons support Trump in 2024? 02:03:26 How did they become apologists for the church? 02:07:27 Making a film as a solution and traveling to Saudi Arabia 02:12:12 Why call it the Stick of Joseph? 02:22:04 The age of the earth? 02:25:15 Beliefs about evolution? 02:26:17 Did Adam and Eve live 6,000 years ago? Were they first humans? 02:35:35 “I grew up in a Church where Doctrine mattered” 02:42:40 If a prophet said it you are to believe it…Doctrine matters 02:54:20 How can new revelation be received? 03:00:55 They were raised in different churches 03:14:55 Conceptualizing the Atonement of Jesus Christ 03:21:50 Instead of having an Atonement 03:25:20 The better solution for the atonement 03:34:00 What is objective truth? 03:46:30 Mormonisms three heavens were not made by God 03:55:17 Conceptualizing sad haven 04:05:15 Who is God? 04:16:11 Questions about Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon 04:19:13 What John misses about the church 04:30:30 What do you do when you learn its not true? 04:35:50 The Church hid parts of their history 04:43:50 The divine baby 04:57:07 Anachronisms in the Book of Mormon 05:15:30 Hebraisms in the Book of Mormon 05:25:00 Jackson's testimony of the Book of Mormon 05:41:04 Does it make them feel sad that the church is in decline? 05:45:55 Stick of Joseph has a Patreon they can donate to Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/millennials-defend-mormonism-thestickofjoseph/ ___________________ At Mormon Stories we explore, celebrate, and challenge Mormon culture through in-depth stories told by members and former members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as well as scholars, authors, LDS apologists, and other professionals. Our overall mission is to: 1. Facilitate informed consent amongst LDS Church members, investigators, and non-members regarding Mormon history, doctrine, and theology 2. Support Mormons (and members of other high-demand religions) who are experiencing a religious faith crisis 3. Promote healing, growth and community for those who choose to leave the LDS Church or other high demand religions Want to create live streams like this? Check out StreamYard: https://streamyard.com/pal/d/4530951114981376 🤝Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today One-time or recurring donations: https://donorbox.org/mormon-stories?default_interval=m Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/mormonstories Paypal: https://paypal.me/mormonstories Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx6OgmoqJbOVRq-Lv1P7SzA/join Our Platforms: 🌐Mormon Stories Blog: https://www.mormonstories.org/episodes 🎙️Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/mormonstories ✳️Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sDzk7dRjODTSEqzZKZJzk?si=148b0efc1ccc4404&nd=1 🍎Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormon-stories-lds/id312094772 🖼️Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mormstories 📱TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormonstoriespodcast 🎮Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjF Contact us: 📧 MormonStories@gmail.com 📬PO Box 171085, Salt Lake City, UT 84117 #MormonStories #Mormon #lds