They can't harm you, if they can't find you! Use code MARSHALL at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/marshall In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with former CIA analyst, author, and political thinker Martin Gurri for a conversation on media manipulation, the CIA, the revolt against elite institutions, and how the internet has transformed politics forever. Drawing on his decades analysing global media for the CIA, Gurri challenges popular claims about government propaganda, arguing that intelligence agencies have far less power to shape public opinion than many believe. We discuss the Arab Spring, USAID, Latin America, Cuba, Venezuela, and why elite attempts to manufacture political outcomes so often fail. The conversation explores the collapse of the post-war consensus, the rise of populism, Donald Trump, Javier Milei, Nigel Farage, social media, censorship, and why establishment institutions are losing control of the public narrative. Gurri explains why the digital revolution has fundamentally shifted power away from traditional elites, creating an age of political fragmentation and permanent disruption. Finally, we discuss artificial intelligence, free speech, the future of Western democracy, and whether governments can ever regain control of the information revolution. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Our show is independently supported by you, consider signing up to our substack to get added benefits like ad-free and extended episodes here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------