In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I spoke with author and investigative journalist Michael Shellenberger for a forensic conversation on the Minneapolis ICE clashes, political radicalisation, and why he argues that the modern left is getting people killed. We examine the killings that followed ICE deportation operations in Minneapolis, the role of activist networks in obstructing law enforcement, and how rhetoric comparing ICE to Nazis has fuelled reckless and dangerous behaviour. Michael explains why he believes organised interference, misinformation, and moral absolutism created the conditions for violence. The discussion explores left-wing authoritarianism, the psychology of radical movements, and how protest tactics have shifted from civil disobedience to deliberate confrontation. We compare Minneapolis to Portland’s autonomous zones, January 6, and Black Lives Matter, and examine why decentralised activist networks are so difficult to contain. We also debate the failures of ICE training and leadership, the Trump administration’s strategic missteps, the Second Amendment, personal responsibility, and whether democratic protest crosses a line when it interferes with law enforcement operations. A hard-hitting and deeply uncomfortable conversation about ideology, power, accountability, and how political movements can lose control of their own consequences. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WATCH EXTENDED CONVERSATION HERE: https://open.substack.com/pub/winstonmarshall/p/the-left-is-getting-people-killed?r=18lfab&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOLLOW ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA: Substack: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/ X: https://twitter.com/mrwinmarshall Insta: https://www.instagram.com/winstonmarshall Linktree: https://linktr.ee/winstonmarshall ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------