Get 20% off DeleteMe US consumer plans when you go to http://joindeleteme.com/Adam and use promo code ADAM at checkout. DeleteMe International Plans: https://international.joindeleteme.com/ Last time we faced a Trump administration, people flooded the streets in protest. But this time feels different. Even as we watch our government being systematically dismantled, the response seems muted. Are we just exhausted? Or is something else at play? And more importantly—does protest still work, or is there a more effective way to protect our future from a newly entrenched autocracy? This week, Adam speaks with friend of the show Dr. Dana Fisher about what we actually need to be doing. Find Dana’s book at http://www.factuallypod.com/books and find Dana here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dana-r-fisher/ BlueSky: @fisherdanar.bsky.social; Instagram: @ApocalypticOptimist; TikTok: @fisher_danar -- SUPPORT THE SHOW ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/adamconover SEE ADAM ON TOUR: https://www.adamconover.net/tourdates/ SUBSCRIBE to and RATE Factually! on: » Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/factually-with-adam-conover/id1463460577 » Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0fK8WJw4ffMc2NWydBlDyJ About Headgum: Headgum is an LA & NY-based podcast network creating premium podcasts with the funniest, most engaging voices in comedy to achieve one goal: Making our audience and ourselves laugh. Listen to our shows at https://www.headgum.com. » SUBSCRIBE to Headgum: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeadGum?sub_confirmation=1 » FOLLOW us on Twitter: http://twitter.com/headgum » FOLLOW us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/headgum/ » FOLLOW us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@headgum » Advertise on Factually! via Gumball.fm