In this conversation John Butler considers sin as lost direction and reflects on the practice and benefits of meditation. John Butler has been practising meditation for over 50 years. In these conversations with Phil Shankland in Bakewell Parish Church, he addresses questions arising from his books, ‘Wonders of Spiritual Unfoldment’, ‘Mystic Approaches’ and two small volumes of ‘Mystic Verses’. You can now listen to John on Spotify and other audio platforms. Here is his most popular recording 'Common sense guide to meditation' (1m views) - https://ffm.to/commonsenseguidetomeditation. For your free copy of John's poem 'Clouds' join John Butler's email community here - http://spiritualunfoldment.co.uk. Those wanting more detailed accounts of John's life experience - the formative influences, which have taught and made him what he is, will find it in his 7 published books, available through the website: www.spiritualunfoldment.co.uk/store. Retreat guests asked if the sample t-shirt was more widely available in different size and colours. They are now - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCi0TFuqj6eND-mJRf8i2Tnw/store If you prefer ad-free videos and bonus content you can join the Feet on the Ground supporters here - https://www.youtube.com/c/SpiritualUnfoldment/join Those who wish to support the Work of Spiritual Unfoldment can donate here - https://www.paypal.com/donate/?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=BBAWMHB4JQMKY