AREA 52 Shop: https://www.area52.shop Patreon Exclusive Content: https://www.patreon.com/Area52investigations Second Channel: @Area52Clips Join The Area52 Discord: https://discord.gg/C7ZB5M3qjv On April 24 1964, a quiet New York farmer claimed to speak for nearly two hours with two small beings in silvery suits while an egg-shaped craft hovered over his field. That same day, Lonnie Zamora witnessed an almost identical object in Socorro, New Mexico. In this episode, we read directly from Dr. Berthold E. Schwarz’s 1969 “UFO Percipients” report, a rare document detailing Gary Wilcox’s psychiatric evaluation, personality testing, and interviews conducted years after the event. What did the doctors find? Was he delusional, deceptive, or telling the truth? We’ll explore the strange overlap between these two legendary cases, the forgotten investigator Priscilla Baldwin, and how early researchers tried to separate psychology from the unexplained. Follow me on IG: https://www.instagram.com/area52investigations/ Call us Toll Free: 8-333-AREA52 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/26PjFc2gsF0jE9CiMvNBVt Itunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/debriefed-with-chris-ramsay/id1724258920 Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvQ_EDuk8w67a2UkCS1ptbA/join LINKS: Read article here: https://ignaciodarnaude.es/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/FSR-SI-1969-N-3UFO-Percipients.pdf? Phone Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnpbuAAFHjM