Tony Fadell of iPod, iPhone, and Nest Fame — Stories of Steve Jobs on “Vacation,” Product Design and Team Building, Good Assholes vs. Bad Assholes, Investing in Trends Before They Become Trends, The Hydrogen Economy, The Future of Batteries, and More | Brought to you by LinkedIn Marketing Solutions marketing platform with ~770M users (http://linkedin.com/tfs), LMNT electrolyte supplement (http://drinklmnt.com/tim), and Eight Sleep’s Pod Pro Cover sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating (http://eightsleep.com/Tim). Tony Fadell (@tfadell) is an active investor and entrepreneur with a 30+ year history of founding companies and designing products that profoundly improve people’s lives. As the principal at Future Shape, a global investment and advisory firm coaching engineers and scientists working on foundational deep technology, he is continuing to help bring technology out of the lab and into our lives. Currently, Future Shape is coaching 200+ startups innovating game-changing technologies. Tony began his career in Silicon Valley at General Magic, the most influential startup nobody has ever heard of. He is the founder and former CEO of Nest, the company that pioneered the “Internet of Things” and created the Nest Learning Thermostat. Tony was the SVP of Apple’s iPod Division and led the team that created the first 18 generations of the iPod and the first three generations of the iPhone. Throughout his career, Tony has authored more than 300 patents. In May 2016, TIME named the Nest Learning Thermostat, the iPod, and the iPhone as three of the “50 Most Influential Gadgets of All Time.” His new book is Build: An Unorthodox Guide to Making Things Worth Making (https://www.amazon.com/Build-Unorthodox-Guide-Making-Things/dp/0063046067/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20). Please enjoy! Show notes: https://tim.blog/2022/04/27/tony-fadell-build/ SUBSCRIBE: http://bit.ly/1dSzTkW LINK TO ALL SHOW TRANSCRIPTS: https://tim.blog/2018/09/20/all-transcripts-from-the-tim-ferriss-show/ About Tim Ferriss: Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded 500 million downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running. Connect with Tim Ferriss: Sign up for "5-Bullet Friday" (Tim's free weekly email newsletter): https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-yt/ Visit the Tim Ferriss PODCAST: https://tim.blog/podcast/ Visit the Tim Ferriss BLOG: https://tim.blog/ Follow Tim Ferriss on TWITTER: https://twitter.com/tferriss/ Follow Tim Ferriss on INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/timferriss/ Like Tim Ferriss on FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/ Start 00:00 Build: An Unorthodox Guide to Making Things Worth Making [00:14] On Killing Yourself for Work [07:29] Downtime [14:14] On managing big jobs with small teams and alleviating burnout [17:50] On efficiently dividing labor [22:31] The org chart at Future Shape [29:09] A deeper dive on Future Shape [32:19] What is programmable electrification? [38:] “The story doesn’t exist to sell your product. It’s there to help you define it.” [44:39] How Steve Jobs used story to define projects and products [49:21] What differentiates an acceptable from an unacceptable asshole? [56:14] On dealing with an overabundance of plastics [1:00:51] Solving the problems that will have the largest impact [1:04:06] Underestimated targets related to climate change [1:09:36] Carbon removal [1:13:17] Geopolitics and an electron-based economy [1:20:25] Cultivating optimism in our younger generations [1:27:44] Audience asks and parting thoughts [1:38:21]