“I think this winter is going to be hard on every level.” The UK has had “a fantastic” summer, but all it would take is a flu outbreak for Labour to face a “really harsh winter”, says The Times's Janice Turner. Janice Turner and Patrick Maguire were speaking to Hugo Rifkind and Danny Shaw was speaking to Kate McCann and Stig Abell. Listen live on Times Radio. Read the best of our journalism: https://www.thetimes.com/ Listen live to Times Radio: https://www.thetimes.com/radio/live Subscribe to The Times and The Sunday Times YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/subscription_center?add_user=timesonlinevideo Find us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/timesandsundaytimes/ Find us on X: https://x.com/thetimes Find us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thetimes/