"Deliver us from evil" sounds familiar but what does it mean? Is it the evil of the world 'out there' or is it the ignorance of our own mis-directed projections? In this conversation John grasps the nettle of the source of evil and how we deal with it. You can now listen to John on Spotify and other audio platforms. Here is his most popular recording 'Common sense guide to meditation' (1m views) - https://ffm.to/commonsenseguidetomeditation. For your free copy of John's poem 'Clouds' join John Butler's email community here - http://spiritualunfoldment.co.uk. Those wanting more detailed accounts of John's life experience - the formative influences, which have taught and made him what he is, will find it in his 7 published books, available through the website: www.spiritualunfoldment.co.uk/store. Retreat guests asked if the sample t-shirt was more widely available in different size and colours. They are now - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCi0TFuqj6eND-mJRf8i2Tnw/store If you prefer ad-free videos and bonus content you can join the Feet on the Ground supporters here - https://www.youtube.com/c/SpiritualUnfoldment/join Those who wish to support the Work of Spiritual Unfoldment can donate here - https://www.paypal.com/donate/?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=BBAWMHB4JQMKY