Dave Johnson and Pat Kahnke discuss Tim Alberta's fantastic new book "The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism." This is the first in a series of conversations about the book. In this episode, we discuss the prologue, and we each share in depth and at length the broad concerns we have about the relationship between evangelicalism, politics, and culture. Just as Tim Alberta describes in the prologue the events that caused him to write the book, so we describe the events and experiences that caused us to speak publicly about the dangers evangelicals face by aligning with Donald Trump and the MAGA movement.