We speak with Prof. Daniel Dennett about concerns about AI being used to create artificial colleagues, he argues that preventing counterfeit AI individuals is crucial for societal trust and security. This is about his recent article in the Atlantic - "Counterfeit People." Please check out Numerai - our sponsor using our link @ http://numer.ai/mlst Support us! https://www.patreon.com/mlst MLST Discord: https://discord.gg/aNPkGUQtc5 Twitter: https://twitter.com/MLStreetTalk We examine Dennett's "Two Black Boxes" thought experiment, the Chinese Room Argument by John Searle, and discuss the implications of AI in terms of reversibility, reontologisation, and realism. Dr. Scarfe and Dennett also examine adversarial LLMs, mental trajectories, and the emergence of consciousness and semanticity in AI systems. We touch on philosophical perspectives, including Gilbert Ryle's Ghost in the Machine, Chomsky's work, and the importance of competition in academia. Dennett concludes by highlighting the need for legal and technological barriers to protect against the dangers of counterfeit AI creations. TOC: 00:00:00 Intro 00:09:56 Main show kick off 00:12:04 Counterfeit People 00:16:03 Reversibility 00:20:55 Reontologisation 00:24:43 Realism 00:27:48 Adversarial LLMs are out to get us 00:32:34 Exploring mental trajectories and Chomsky 00:38:53 Gilbert Ryle and Ghost in machine and competition in academia 00:44:32 2 Black boxes thought experiment / intentional stance 01:00:11 Chinese room 01:04:49 Singularitarianism 01:07:22 Emergence of consciousness and semanticity References: Tree of Thoughts: Deliberate Problem Solving with Large Language Models https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.10601 The Problem With Counterfeit People (Daniel Dennett) https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/05/problem-counterfeit-people/674075/ The knowledge argument https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_argument The Intentional Stance https://www.researchgate.net/publication/271180035_The_Intentional_Stance Two Black Boxes: a Fable (Daniel Dennett) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/28762339_Two_Black_Boxes_a_Fable The Chinese Room Argument (John Searle) https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/chinese-room/ https://web-archive.southampton.ac.uk/cogprints.org/7150/1/10.1.1.83.5248.pdf From Bacteria to Bach and Back: The Evolution of Minds (Daniel Dennett) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bacteria-Bach-Back-Evolution-Minds/dp/014197804X Consciousness Explained (Daniel Dennett) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Consciousness-Explained-Penguin-Science-Dennett/dp/0140128670/ The Mind's I: Fantasies and Reflections on Self and Soul (Hofstadter, Douglas R; Dennett, Daniel C.) https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=31494476184 #DanielDennett #ArtificialIntelligence #CounterfeitPeople