Simon Armitage believes poetry changes the world not by telling us what to think, but through persuasion, wonder and the possibilities of language. In this episode of Ways to Change the World, the Poet Laureate and chair of judges for the Next Generation Poets 2027 joins Krishnan Guru-Murthy to discuss his new version of Gilgamesh, a story of friendship, power, loss and immortality that has survived for thousands of years. He reflects on discovering poetry through Ted Hughes, leaving behind his career as a probation officer, writing for moments of national significance, and why the oldest stories can still help us make sense of the world today.