What would it mean to encounter the sacred again - not as an abstract idea, but as something disclosed in the very fabric of experience? John Vervaeke is joined by Guy Sengstock for a special Lectern conversation on John’s three-part course trilogy, Seeing God Again for the First Time. This is not a standard lecture or dialogue. John invited Guy to watch the full trilogy and reflect back what he saw: not only the arguments, but the living movement of the course as a philosophical, phenomenological, and spiritual exercise. John and Guy explore: • why Seeing God Again is designed as a trilogy and a pilgrimage • teaching as encounter, not merely the transfer of propositions • the influence of Socrates, Plotinus, Pierre Hadot, Paul Tillich, William Desmond, Heidegger, and Wittgenstein • how rigorous argument, phenomenological exploration, and spiritual exercise can become one movement • why modernity’s dichotomies distort our ability to encounter sacredness • the collapse of the fact/value, is/ought, subjective/objective, and theory/data divides • why postmodernity reveals the ruins but cannot by itself show us how to leave them • sacredness as ultimately real, orienting, transformative, and resonant • why naming is relational, not merely definitional • the difference between curiosity, awe, and wonder • aletheia, beauty, goodness, and truth as mutually disclosing • AI, personhood, consciousness, and the danger of making ontological decisions without wisdom • why recovering sacredness matters for the meaning crisis and the future of technology Explore courses and offerings from The Lectern: https://lectern.teachable.com Explore courses and teachings from The Lectern https://lectern.johnvervaeke.com/ Support the Lectern and join a growing community of wisdom seekers https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke John Vervaeke: https://johnvervaeke.com/ https://twitter.com/vervaeke_john https://www.youtube.com/@johnvervaeke https://www.patreon.com/johnvervaeke